SMLE 303 wrote:
gunhappy_ie wrote:
Hi Rayfn,
M1s (both grands and carbines) are restricted because they are semi automatic centerfire rifles.
The only type of semi auto that isnt restricted are rimfires that have a magazine capacity of 10 or less rounds Eg ruger 10/22 with a standard factory mag. Should you put a magazine with higher capacity than 10 on the 10/22 it becomes restricted.
As for length..... a centerfire longarm (rifle/shotgun) becomes restricted when its barrel is shorter than 30 cm and its overall length is shorter than 60 cm because under irish law because it is then classed as a short arm (pistol). Should a rimfire rifle be that short it would be classed as an unrestrictred pistol as long as its magazine capacity was 5 or less.
I hope that helps.
GH
What about these special sporting purposes semi automatic centerfire rifles GH?
Now sporting purposes semi automatic centerfire rifles seem good to go if triggers and other parts modification can take it out of the category of the "assault rifle"
In my humble opinion FNs, Garands had always the right trigger assembly to keep out of the assault rifles category
Anyone explain assault rifle restricted (AR)
TIA
Been awhile since I posted so excuse me for being a little little rusty but youve me confused with 2 questions:
[color=#FF0000]1. "Special sporting purpose Semi auto center rifle" ??? [/color]In a previous post I mentioned how all Semi auto centerfires are restricted in Ireland and again there is no limit as to the magazine capacity allowed in a restricted firearm.
Restricted semi autos fall into one of two definitions in S.I 21 of 2008:
1. "semi-automatic firearms" means firearms that reload automatically from a magazine or cylinder each time a round is discharged but can fire not more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.
Or
2. "assault rifles" means-
(a) rifles capable of functioning as semi-automatic and fully-automatic firearms.
(b) firearms which resemble such rifles.
So Ill start with the "assault rifles".... I have been involved in several cases (mod edit) classing all semi autos as "Assault rifles" in an effort to win cases in favor of the Chief supers decision.
Ive said it many many times before that what this person and many other people are doing is basing there opinions on the visual representation of the firearm in front of them and not basing it on the mechanical function of the firearm along with the design features that separate the two.
In my experience and opinion unless a fully automatic gun was converted to semi automatic with as little modification of parts as possible it is only then an "assault rifle" on resemblance.
An M1 Grand or carbine should not fall into this category as they were never really produced as a fully automatic gun.
It is also worth pointing out that the initial concept for the assault rifle was that as well as being fully automatic it was to use an intermediary cartridge like 5.56/7.62x39 and not 7.62/30-06. A rifle using a full powered rifle cartridge like 7.62/30-06 was always considered as a battle rifle.
Taking what I said above on board the FN Fal is a different kettle of fish in that it was available in both fully automatic and semi automatic.
In an ideal world the powers that be would actually have a clue what there talking about in court and not referencing wikipedia so your "Special sporting purpose Semi auto center rifle" would be defined as a Semi-automatic under irish law and if you have a valid reason to have it you should be granted a licence.
2. "Anyone explain assault rifle restricted (AR) "There is no such thing, semi auto centerfire rifles are restricted unless your getting mixed up with people who have a rifle based on the Armalite 15 (AR) platform.
Hope i didnt melt the ears off you

GH