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New Concept Rifles & Scopes 
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Post New Concept Rifles & Scopes
Blackadder wrote:
Both expensive high quality stright pull rifles. Merkel Helix has a price range of between £2,565 - £4,000 depending on the model, however it features a quick release, switch barrel system, and lever opperated arm, that releases both the action & barrel togeather as one unit. It means you may only ever need 'one rifle and scope' to shoot everything from vermin - large game - transported in a shorter gun case.

Merkel Helix Review
http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/merkel_helix/


Desert Tech SRS in two Calibres

Well, I'm not a deer-slayer, so that rifle is a no-no for me. It also looks, ahem, strange, at least to MY eye-trumpets. MY ultimate choice for a new rifle has to be the Desert Tech SRS with a slightly longer barrel - say 24". My good shooting pal Ewan Campbell is the UK importer of Desert Tach Arms, and often gets me to do a demo for him to show how even a lame-brained old fart like me can shoot the things like somebody who knows what they are doing.

One morning he dropped the gun on my bit of the FP, five rounds of Hornady TAP .308Win, a hex wrench and a .300 Win Mag barrel. Shoot that, says he, and I'll time you doing a barrel change and then shoot it in the .300WM.

I loaded up, and fired five quick shots into a raggedy hole at 100m, changed the barrels out in 54 seconds [not having done it before], and then shot the other five .300WM rounds. There was a slight nick out of the hole in one place, but they had all gone through the hole I'd made with the .308Win stuff. Total time - three minutes and twelve seconds. VERY impressed, me.

I've got some pics of me doing it, too -
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19 Feb 2014 18:39
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Post Re: New Concept Rifles & Scopes
Ergonomics of a rifle for hunting differs to an extent from a dedicated precision, heavy rifle for long range shooting fired from rested or prone position. That's not to say the Desert Tech SRS cannot be used for hunting.
Weight & price of the SRS would be on the heavy side I suspect?


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The Desert Tech [formerly Desert Tactical Arms] SRS in the form I was shooting weighs around ten pounds. Here in UK, where their appearance means absolutely nothing, the compact bullpup design makes them highly suitable for game conservation professionals, who have so far bought about four hundred of them as you see. Needless to say, their extreme accuracy out to the limits of the ammunition means that the short barrel means nothing - in fact, it only LOOKS short, but is in fact 24 inches long.

The cost of the gun with one calibre is currently around £4500.00 - top it off with the S&B PMII that I was using and add another £2500.00 on top.

BTW, my two groups were well inside 5/8th" at 100m. Not bad, even with me shooting.

The British Armed Forces have no interest in this gun, having just spent around $3 Million getting the LMT 'sharpshooters' rifle into service - not for snipers, but for designated marksmen. The Accuracy International AX-series will follow on from the AI/AW.

The Desert Tech HTI [Hard Target Interdiction] is the .50cal version, and shares the compact appearance of the smaller calibre guns, which, incidentally, go up to .338LM. The necessarily larger frame of the HTI is available in all the usual big calibres from .416 Cheytac up to .50cal BMG - many have been sold here in UK to shooters who can afford the initial cost, and the high-priced feeding they need.

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Post Re: New Concept Rifles
LMT308
http://youtu.be/uMoP6ONNl_4

AX338
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8467002532

"Private Range/land that has been cleared" ;)
http://youtu.be/X5ZQVtqHPwA







Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. Wyatt Earp :lol: :lol:


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Backstop Benny wrote:


Well, the LMT is the British Army's new 'designated marksman' rifle, issued at section/platoon level to those infantry and RM personnel who have successfully passed the designated marksman course at the School of Infantry - Warminster. Such personnel are NOT snipers, but are dedicated to provide long-range response to enemy outside the effective range of the issue mouse-killer. Quite a few Taliban have found ut the hard way that a short gun no longer means that they are safe at 600 - 800m...BTW, Here in yUK we can buy a straight-pull/MANOP version of the LMT in .308Win for around £3800, but you'll need stuff like a the specialised bipod [ca. £400] and some good glass [S&B PM2, Nightforce, March, US Optics], adding another £2500-5000.

The AX338 can be bought by anybody with an interest in long-range rifle shooting - the little-set up you saw in the Youtube movie is around £12500 or so. Ammunition, if you don't make your own, is around £3.20-£4.00 a shot.

BTW, I can also hit steel at 550 yards with my $79.95 Swiss K31, $100 clamp-on scope mount, and $50 s/h scope.

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Post Re: New Concept Rifles & Scopes
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The British Armed Forces have no interest in this gun, having just spent around $3 Million getting the LMT 'sharpshooters' rifle into service

HK417/G27 didn't pass the bundeswehr/british army field tests,failed the accuracy tests, alloy upper
Bundeswehr new designated marksman HK G28 rifle got the steel upper :lol: :lol:
http://youtu.be/8pTXfsPEzfA


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Post Re: New Concept Rifles & Scopes
The latest in scope design for F-Class, Benchrest and special purpose long range precision work.

Nightforce Competition 15-55×52
€2,475.00
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/201 ... -for-2014/


March Tactical 10-60x52TI Illum.
€3,966.00
https://www.marchscopes.co.uk/index.php ... long-range


IOR 12-52x56 40mm TERMINATOR TACTICAL SFP MOA/MOA, XTREME X1 ILLUM RETICLE
$3,695.00
http://www.valdada.com/scopes/benchrest ... p-8-xtreme



Sharps shooting UK Scope Tests 1 -
http://youtu.be/-g1MpQcc1Zw


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